Fruits of Vatican II - Part 2 Baptisms, Marriages and Conversions

JMJ

In the last article we looked at ordination stats from around the world and compared them to the SSPX and FSSP.

Interestingly, I live in a diocese with ~ 130k Catholics. Number of ordinations - 2 in the last 7 years or so ... or was that the neighboring diocese?

Can you tell the difference? I sure can.

The UK data has some other interesting stats that I think bear discussion: Baptisms, Marriages and Receptions into the Catholic Church (of key interest in a protestant country).

Baptisms, provide some insight to the internal growth of the Church as well as the adherence to the Catholic Teaching on birth control. Marriages likewise provide insight to the vitality of the Church as families are a core element of a society. Finally, the missionary zeal of the Church is reflected in the conversions that occur - not only because of active efforts but because the Church presents itself as the Church of Christ the bearer of truth.

I don't have data from the US or World, but I think I am safe in making the assumption that these UK trends roughly parallel trends elsewhere in the Catholic sphere.

Anyone who doesn't believe that the Catholic Church is in a crisis is denying reality.

P^3

This spike is of interest and while we can't blame it all on V2, the response of the Bishops of the Catholic Church to Humane Vitae. I think that the 'Winnipeg Statement' says it all.

Comments

Is it sinful to attend the Novus Ordo (New Mass) - Is it Sinful to Not Attend the Novus Ordo on Sunday?

+ JMJ A non-SSPX Catholic is upset over the SSPX statements on not attending the Novus Ordo Missae. Ladies and gentlemen, what the SSPX, or at least its website editor, is advocating is a mortal sin against the Third Commandment. Unless the priest deviates from the language of the Sacramentary, the consecration, and thus the rest of Mass is to be considered valid. No one may elect not to attend Mass simply because abuses are occurring therein. Might I suggest that such absenteeism is its own abuse? The Third Commandment binds under mortal sin. Father So-And-So from the SSPX has no authority whatsoever to excuse attendance at Mass, be that Mass ever so unpalatable. Source:Restore DC Catholicism Well, this is interesting. First why does the SSPX issue this statement? Because it is sinful to put your faith in danger by attending a protestant service. It is likewise dangerous to put your faith in danger by attending a protestantized mass (ie the Novus Ordo Missae

Regarding Post: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer no longer ... now Bishop Joseph Pfeiffer (Can't see this being a problem...)

+ JMJ I've been watching the popularity of the post about Fr. Pfeiffer's attempted episcopal consecration and its continued top listing on the 'popular posts' list at the bottom of posts. After some thought, I decided that I don't want to be responsible for anyone joining Fr. Pfeiffer's 'group', however unlikely that would be at this time. So I have reverted the article to the draft state. If anyone wants it reinstated, I would ask that they comment on this post with a rationale for reinstatement. P^3

Auctorem Fidei

Can the SSPX be right about the Novus Ordo? Revision: Feb 11, 2013 On another web forum, I was engaged in a rather heated discussion about the documents of Vatican II.

Morning and Evening and other sundry Prayers

+ JMJ Along the theme of P^3 (Prayer, Penance, Patience), and for my own reference ... here is a collection of Morning and Evening prayers from the Ideal Daily Missal along with some additional prayers. In this crisis of the Church, I do not think it is possible to do too much prayer, penance and have patience. P^3

War: Culture

+ JMJ The culture that permeates Western culture is actually difficult to pin down. There is a constant tension between the liberals and the conservatives. However, the question is, what have the conservative managed to conserve? In this case, in my opinion (IMO), the conservatives are fighting a losing battle because they, like much of Western Culture have become disconnected from the root of Western Culture, Catholicism. What's more Catholicism has likewise become disconnected from its own roots. God created nature to abhor a vacuum so something has be replace what has been abandoned. In this case, Liberal Catholicism and Modernism have filled the gap. So to fix modern culture before it completely self-destructs, it is necessary for its root, the Catholic Church, to re-anchor itself - prophesized by St. Don Bosco as to the Eucharist and the Blessed Virgin Mary. The true culture wars are those in the hearts and minds of the people who collectively make the culture. So - imo

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