Please pray that I achieve the level needed for my position!
What should our conclusion be? We would simply say that the “Society of Saint Pius X does not have to negotiate a charitable recognition which would save it from a supposed schism. It has the immense honor, after forty years of exclusion, to be able to witness in favor of the Catholic Faith in the Vatican ” ...while we wait for Rome to finally decide to expel the perfidious Conciliar errors from the midst of the faithful .
34. Que conclure ? Reprenant les paroles citées au début de ce numéro, nous dirions simplement que « la Fraternité Saint Pie X n’a pas à négocier une charitable reconnaissance qui la sauverait d’un schisme supposé. Elle a l’immense honneur, après quarante années d’exclusion, de pouvoir, au Vatican, témoigner de la foi catholique ». En attendant que Rome se décide enfin à chasser du milieu des croyants le peuple impie de ces erreurs conciliaires.
He should ensure that the good of these members of the faithful is harmonized with the ordinary pastoral care of the parish, under the governance of the bishop in accordance with Canon 392, avoiding discord and favouring the unity of the whole Church.For context, here's canon 392:
Can. 392As noted elsewhere on this blog, the duty of the bishop is to protect the unity of the universal Church by promoting the common discipline, and prevent abuses from creeping into the liturgy.
§1. Since he must protect the unity of the universal Church, a bishop is bound to promote the common discipline of the whole Church and therefore to urge the observance of all ecclesiastical laws.
§2. He is to exercise vigilance so that abuses do not creep into ecclesiastical discipline, especially regarding the ministry of the word, the celebration of the sacraments and sacramentals, the worship of God and the veneration of the saints, and the administration of goods.
After receiving a detailed critique of the section on Theology of the Body in the essay below, the author has seen fit to clarify certain parts of that section as well as that on Amoris Laetitia. There follows the corrected and revised version of the essay by Fr. Pietro Leone, a traditional priest in Italy.
2. A Public Statement on the Occasion of the Episcopal Consecration of Several Priests of the Society of St. Pius X.
Albano, (Rome), October 19. 1983
Et ingressus angelus ad eam dixit: Ave gratia plena: Dominus tecum: benedicta tu in mulieribus.
And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Into her presence the angel came, and said, Hail, thou who art full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women.
27 ad virginem desponsatam viro, cui nomen erat Ioseph de domo David, et nomen virginis Maria.
28 Et ingressus ad eam dixit: “ Ave, gratia plena, Dominus tecum ”.
29 Ipsa autem turbata est in sermone eius et cogitabat qualis esset ista salutatio.
( http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_nt_evang-lucam_lt.html )
Vatican City (kath.net/ KAP) According to Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, an agreement between the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X and the Vatican is not yet within reach."This takes time," said the Prefect of the Roman Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, according to Catholic broadcaster EWTN. What is needed is a "deeper reconciliation, not just the signing of a document." Those who wish to be Catholic must accept, among other things, the councils and other ecclesiastical doctrine as well as the "hierarchical communion with the local bishop, the communion of all bishops and the Holy Father". (h/t Eponymous flower)I understand that Archbishop Pozzo maintained his position (mantra not in force) in front of Bishop Fellay and Card. Mueller.
Archbishop Lefebvre opposed the end of the Latin Mass—a move he regarded as a damaging rupture with the church’s millennial traditions—and the Vatican’s more open stance to other religions. He argued that Catholicism is the only true faith and that Catholic officeholders are duty bound to make sure it is favored by the state. Source: WSJ
SSPX members “flagrantly reject the Catholic Church’s rite of the Mass, its teachings on the primacy of conscience, and its respect for the truths expressed by other religions. Yet they are beckoned back into the fold,” wrote Jamie L. Manson, an editor of the progressive National Catholic Reporter, in April 2016. “But Catholics who…challenge the church’s teachings on women’s ordination and sexual ethics are still locked outside of the doors of mercy.”
Nicolas Seneze (La Croix): Thanks, Holy Father. We’re returning from Fatima for which the Fraternity of St. Pius X has a great devotion and much is said about an agreement that would give an official statute to the Fraternity in the Church. Some even imagined that there would be an announcement today… Holiness, do you think that this agreement is possible in a short timeframe? And, what are the obstacles still? And what is the sense of this reconciliation for you? And, will it be the triumphant return for faithful who have shown what it means to be truly Catholic or what?
Francis: I would toss out any form of triumphalism. None. Some days ago, the Feria Quarta of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, their meeting - the call it the Feria Quarta, because it’s the fourth Wednesday - studied a document and the document still hasn’t reached me, the study of the document. This is the first. Secondly, the current relations are fraternal. Last year, I gave a license for confession to all of them, also a form of jurisdiction for marriages, but even before the problems, the cases they had, for example, had to be resolved by the Doctrine of the Faith. The Doctrine of the Faith carries them forward. For example, abuses. The cases of abuse, they brought them to us, also to the Penitentiary. Also the reduction to the lay state of a priest, they bring to us. The relations are fraternal. With Msgr. Fellay I have a good rapport. I’ve spoken many times… I don’t like to hurry things. Walk. Walk. Walk. And then we’ll see. For me, it’s not an issue of winners and losers, it’s an issue of brothers who must walk together, looking for a formula to make steps forward.The reports that I've seen have only focused on the words of Pope Francis - but the question is critical to understanding the final aspects.
Two religions confront each other; we are in a dramatic situation and it is impossible to avoid a choice, but the choice is not between obedience and disobedience. What is suggested to us, what we are expressly invited to do, what we are persecuted for not doing, is to choose an appearance of obedience. But even the Holy Father cannot ask us to abandon our faith.
We therefore choose to keep it and we cannot be mistaken in clinging to what the Church has taught for two thousand years. The crisis is profound, cleverly organized and directed, and by this token one can truly believe that the master mind is not a man but Satan himself. For it is a master-stroke of Satan to get Catholics to disobey the whole of Tradition in the name of obedience. A typical example is furnished by the “aggiornamento” of the religious societies. By obedience, monks and nuns are made to disobey the laws and constitutions of their founders, which they swore to observe when they made their profession. Obedience in this case should have been a categorical refusal. Even legitimate authority cannot command a reprehensible and evil act. Nobody can oblige anyone to change his monastic vows into simple promises, just as nobody can make us become Protestants or modernists. St. Thomas Aquinas, to whom we must always refer, goes so far in the Summa Theologica as to ask whether the “fraternal correction” prescribed by Our Lord can be exercised towards our superiors. After having made all the appropriate distinctions he replies: “One can exercise fraternal correction towards superiors when it is a matter of faith.” (OpenLetterToConfusedCatholics/Chapter-18)
However, one day they will be obliged to recognize that the Society represents a spiritual force and a strength of the Faith which is irreplaceable and which they will have, I hope, the joy and the satisfaction to make use of, but when they have come back to their Traditional Faith.I've already made my case, but recently I decided to look for and found the original french text (full text below).
Bien qu’ils n’aient pas voulu le dire explicitement, ils sont bien obligés de reconnaître que la Fraternité représente une force spirituelle irremplaçable pour la foi, dont ils auront, j’espère, la joie et la satisfaction de se servir lorsqu’ils auront retrouvé la foi traditionnelle.Comparing to the above translation we find the following:
While they did not want to say so explicitly, they are obliged to recognize that the Fraternity represents an irreplaceable spiritual force for the faith, of which they will have, I hope, the joy and the satisfaction to make use of when they rediscover the traditional faith.Here's the two translations side by side:
one day they will be obliged to recognize that the Society
represents a spiritual force and a strength of the Faith which is
irreplaceable and which they will have, I hope, the joy and the
satisfaction to make use of, but
when they have come back to their Traditional Faith.
they did not want to say so explicitly, they are obliged to
recognize that the Fraternity represents an
irreplaceable spiritual force for the faith, of which they will have, I
hope, the joy and the satisfaction to make use of when
they rediscover the traditional faith.
To make a deal with the SSPX and the Lefebvrist movement on Archbishop Pozzo’s premise—that this new personal prelature would be conceded a right to reject certain teachings of the Second Vatican Council—would be to make the symphony of Catholic truth discordant rather than melodic. It would validate even more dissent on the Catholic Left. It would reinforce the notion that doctrine is not about truth, but about power. (First Things: Lets-not-make-a-deal-at-least-this-deal)
We cannot just simply will it. In other words, if there is not a common understanding, what we reconcile will result in all sort of conflicts and difficulties. We have to make sure that there it is a common understanding in regard to all the questions which, in the past, the FSSPX has had about the Church, the Holy See and the direction of the Catholic Church.
Finally, here's a link to my commentary: For the Impatient
a hundred years is a mere blink in the life of an elf
We have told Rome, very clearly, that, just as Archbishop Lefebvre used to say in his day, we have a sine qua non condition: if this condition is not met, then we will not move. And this condition is for us to be able to remain as we are, to keep all the principles that have kept us alive, that have kept us Catholic.So ... what can we conclude?
The SSPX is Catholic, their sacraments are valid, anyone may attend and seek the Sacraments from them.This, obviously, would create a big mess from a canonical perspective. However, Pope Francis is not afraid of creating messes and since he approves of the NeoCat Way, then why not approve the SSPX who is actually recognizably Catholic?
Bishop Fellay confirmed in the program Terres de Mission of TVLibertes broadcast minutes ago: on the factual level, relations with the Vatican are already normal, and only the seal is missing on the agreement: