Friday, May 29, 2015

A look back at 1988 and 2009 - The Excommunications and their lifting. - Part Trois


Received this in an email - I think it helps clarify the flow of events. (Part Un and Deux)

Point A: Who is affected by the decree of 1988 ?  Those named in it, specifically:
  1. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
  2. Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer
  3. Bernard Fellay
  4. Bernard Tissier de Mallerais
  5. Richard Williamson 
  6. Alfonso de Galarreta
Point B: What is the duration of the effect of this decree?

Point C: As the Decree of 1988 no longer has juridical effect.

Point D: Therefore (ergo) as the Decree no longer has 'juridical effect', irregardless as who was named in the Decree of 2009, all those named in the Decree of 1988 are no longer affected by the decree of excommunication.

Point E: Therefore (ergo) the excommunications of Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop de Castro Mayer have also been lifted.

Point F: I would like to add one thing that is less commonly known: once a person dies the excommunication is no longer effective since the person, upon their death, has passed out the authority of the Church Militant.

Either way, the decree of excommunication no longer has juridical effect for those named, both living an dead.


Tuesday, May 19, 2015

Catholic Dogmas, Doctrines and Principles - Expanded


In my earlier articles on principles (article 1) (article 2), I provided a list of principles that I think are particularly important in these times.

Attached below is an expanded version.

Pray lest you enter into temptation.

When you're not praying, read the Catechism of Trent on the 'One Holy Catholic Apostolic' Church.


Monday, May 18, 2015

How is the SSPX prepared to accept the Second Vatican Council??? - Updated


The Archbishop remained steadfast. In the 1980s, in his correspondence with then-Cardinal Ratzinger, Archbishop Lefebvre stated his position that the criterion for interpreting Vatican II in light of Tradition comprises three elements:

1) He and the SSPX would accept anything in Vatican II that is clearly consistent with Tradition;
2) Any ambiguous texts of Vatican II must be interpreted strictly according to Tradition; according to the consistent teaching of the Church throughout the centuries.
3) Anything in the Council that cannot be interpreted according to Tradition should be revised.

The Archbishop laid this out explicitly in his letters to Cardinal Ratzinger in 1982 and 1985.

CF News: Rome-SSPX: Background to the Doctrinal Discussions

CF News: The April 15 Deadline

A few years ago Tony La Rosa (aka ecclesia militans a Toronto based 'resistor') had a difficult time accepting this approach to the council. He held that it must be completely tossed aside. I maintained that it was one option, however a correction was also possible.

If I remember correctly, he had a great deal of difficulty setting aside his dogmatic opinions and realizing that the way we would solve the crisis does not constrain how God WILL solve the crisis.

Here is how Bishop Williamson used to see the different opinions ... I wonder if he still does ...

You'll notice that the opinion that "nothing is worth salvaging from the Council" is listed (By Bishop Williamson) as being a moderately sedevacantist position.

Well I wonder how many 'resistors' hold that opinion ...


Update: Mr. John Vennari  has given me permission to reproduce the articles of CFNEWS.

This article is particularly important as it outlines the principles followed by Archbishop Lefebvre in assessing the teachings of the Second Vatican Council.

Courtesy of CFNEWS

Rome-SSPX: Background to the Doctrinal Discussions

By John Vennari

Pope Benedict XVI’s withdrawal of the alleged “excommunications” is good news for the entire Catholic world.[1] Perhaps the cause for greatest rejoicing is that the “excommunications” were lifted without the Society of St. Pius X compromising the Faith one inch; without compromising their principles and their open resistance to the Council and its disastrous liberal reforms. Long may this steadfast refusal to compromise continue.

Both Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, and Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, SSPX, stated that next on the program is doctrinal discussion regarding Vatican II and the crisis in the Church. Bishop Fellay always refrained from using the word “negotiations” in this regard, since, “there is nothing to negotiate. You can not negotiate the faith”.[2]

Bishop Fellay mentioned these doctrinal discussions in his initial response to the lifting of the excommunications on January 24: “Consequently we wish to begin these ‘talks’ -- which the decree acknowledges to be ‘necessary’ -- about the doctrinal issues which are opposed to the Magisterium of all time. We cannot help noticing the unprecedented crisis which is shaking the Church today: crisis of vocations, crisis of religious practice, of catechism, of the reception of the sacraments…”[3]

Likewise, Bishop Tissier de Malleriais noted in a February 1 interview, “There will be doctrinal theological discussions regarding doctrines of the Second Vatican Council between the delegates of the Holy See and us … We do not change our positions, but we have the intention of converting Rome [to our positions], that is, to lead Rome towards our positions."[4]

The issue of doctrinal discussions is not new. The Society of St. Pius X made clear on numerous occasions their desire for any form of regularization to take place according to the following program:

1) Obtaining the two preconditions, which are the withdrawal of the decree of excommunication and the freedom of every priest to celebrate the Mass of Saint Pius V;

2) The resolution of doctrinal questions regarding the Council and the new orientation since the Council;

3) The search for the most adequate canonical solution after the doctrinal questions are resolved.[5]

The motu proprio freeing the Old Mass and the January 21 lifting of the “excommunications” fulfills the first of the three-point outline. The SSPX now appears headed toward a stage in the proceedings that will be fraught with interest: the doctrinal discussion regarding Vatican II.

It is true that Archbishop Lefebvre said he was prepared to accept Vatican II in light of Tradition, but the issue goes beyond a mere interpretation of texts laden with ambiguities and crucial omissions. In his correspondence with Cardinal Ratzinger in the mid-1980s, Archbishop Lefebvre stated his position that the criterion for interpreting Vatican II in light of Tradition comprises three elements:

1) He and the SSPX would accept anything in Vatican II that is clearly consistent with Tradition;

2) Any ambiguous texts of Vatican II must be interpreted strictly according to Tradition; according to the consistent teaching of the Church throughout the centuries;

3) Anything in the Council that cannot be interpreted according to Tradition should be revised.

The Archbishop laid this out explicitly in his letters to Cardinal Ratzinger in 1982 and 1985.

In his letter of July 21 1982 to Cardinal Ratzinger, Archbishop Lefebvre speaks of “The necessity of judging the Second Vatican Council in light of Tradition and the unchanging Magisterium of the Church, so as to correct the texts that are either incompatible with Tradition or equivocal.”[6]

Again, in a letter to Cardinal Ratzinger of April 17, 1985, the Archbishop is even more specific. After explaining that he and the SSPX were ready to accept the texts of the Council “in accordance with the criterion of Tradition”, that is, “according to the Traditional Magisterium of the Church”, the Archbishop states clearly what this criterion demands. Archbishop Lefebvre writes:

“Considering that the Declaration of Religious Liberty is contrary to the Magisterium of the Church, we ask for a wholesale revision of the text.

“We consider likewise indispensable noteworthy revisions of documents like ‘The Church in the Modern World’, ‘Non-Christian Religions’, ‘Ecumenism’, and clarifications of numerous texts presently tending toward confusion.
“Similarly on several points of prime importance, the new Code of Canon Law is unacceptable by it opposition to the definitive Magisterium of the Church.”[7]

The Dubia

There is another important historic fact often buried that should be brought back to the surface.

In the 1980s, as the disorientation of the Church was accelerating due to an increased application of the most radical aspects of the Council, Archbishop Lefebvre prayed for a sign from Providence whether or not to consecrate bishops for the SSPX.

He explained he received two signs that it was necessary to proceed. The first was Pope John Paul II’s prayer meeting at Assisi. The second was a doctrinal response from Cardinal Ratzinger’s office that Archbishop Lefebvre considered even more serious than Assisi.

As for the first: Pope John Paul II’s held the first interreligious prayer meeting at Assisi in 1986, wherein Protestants, Orthodox, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Shintos, Jains, and various pagan religions gathered in Assisi to pray for peace, according to the rituals of their own heretical or pagan practices.

Archbishop Lefebvre denounced Assisi in strong terms. “He who now sits upon the Throne of Peter mocks publicly the first article of the Creed and the first Commandment of the Decalogue”, said the Archbishop. “The scandal given to Catholic souls cannot be measured. The Church is shaken to its very foundation.”[8]

The “second providential sign” that Archbishop saw was in the 1987 reply Cardinal Ratzinger’s office gave to Archbishop Lefebvre’s formal theological objections to the Council document on Religious Liberty.
Regarding this new doctrine, Archbishop Lefebvre explained:

“The new and liberal doctrine of religious liberty was the main objective of the Council for many [progressivist] experts such as Fr. Congar, Fr. John Courtney Murray, and many others, together with the Secretariat for Christian Unity which incorporated this idea of religious liberty into its charter. Cardinal Bea, Bishop Willebrand, and Bishop de Smet were the great proponents of this thesis, with the support of the American episcopate and the encouragement of anti-Catholic associations such as the B’Nai B’rith of New York, a Jewish and Masonic group, as well as the ecumenical Council of Churches in Geneva.”[9]

Archbishop Lefebvre quoted the progressvist Father Yves Congar, one of the most influential theologians of Vatican II and its aftermath. Father Congar admitted, “It cannot be denied that the declaration on Religious Liberty does say something else than the Syllabus of 1864; it even says just about the opposite.”[10]

Congar said further about Vatican II in general, “It is clear that the decree on ecumenism does say, on several points something else than Pius XI’s Encyclical Mortalium Animos, and the declaration on religious Liberty says the contrary of several articles of Pius IX’s syllabus, as Lumen Gentium 16 and Ad Gentes 7 do say something else than ‘There is no salvation outside the Church’…”[11]

It is also well-known that the eminent theologian Msgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton, Editor of the American Ecclesiastical Review and true expert on the doctrine of the Social Kingship of Jesus Christ, had been a peritus at Vatican II. He left the Council and resigned from the American Ecclesiastical Review rather than accept the new direction of Religious Liberty.[12] As Michael Davies often noted in this regard, “Yesterday’s heresy had become today’s orthodoxy”.[13]

Perhaps the most damning indictment of the Council’s Religious Liberty came from the synagogue of Satan itself. During the Council Archbishop Lefebvre noted:

“This very year [1965], Yves Marsaudon, the Freemason, has published the book L’oecumenisme vu par un franc-macon de tradition (Ecumenism as Seen by a Traditional Freemason). In it the author expresses hope of Freemasons that our Council will solemnly proclaim religious liberty .... What more information do we need?”[14]

In October 1985, Archbishop Lefebvre submitted to the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith a document that contained thirty-nine doubts (dubia) concerning incongruities between Vatican II’s new doctrine on Religious Liberty and the consistent teaching of the Church from the past.

Rome replied to the Archbishop Lefebvre’s Dubia with a fifty-page document that considered none of the doubts in particular. Cardinal Ratzinger’s office admitted that Vatican II’s doctrine of religious liberty was “inconstestably a novelty”, but claimed it was the outcome of “doctrinal development of continuity,”[15] whatever that means.

To detail Religious Liberty’s effective overthrowing of the Church’s perennial magisterium on the Social Kingship of Jesus Christ is beyond the scope of this short article.[16] Suffice to say that the Vatican’s response – which was, in effect, a principled adherence to the new doctrine – shook Archbishop Lefebvre to the bone.

Archbishop Lefebvre saw Rome’s reply to the Dubia as “the sign that I was waiting for, a more serious sign than Assisi. For it is one thing to perform a serious and scandalous act, but quite another thing to affirm false principles that in practice have disastrous consequences”, which is the practical overturning of the Social Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the “pantheon of all religions”.[17]

This is the background against which the doctrinal discussions between the Society of St. Pius X and the Vatican will take place. I do not pretend to forecast the outcome of these discussions, what they will accomplish or how long they will take. A conservative English-speaking Cardinal, who is glad of the lifting of the ”excommunications”, and who recently had a friendly encounter with some SSPX supporters, told them, “There is a lot that remains to discuss.”[18]

Pray a great deal…

The Society of St. Pius X credits Pope Benedict XVI for the motu proprio, and for the lifting of the “excommunications”. Indeed it is probably true that no other cardinal elected to the Papacy in 2005 would have both freed the old Mass and removed the unjust stigma laid upon the SSPX bishops.

But the SSPX primarily credits Our Blessed Mother. The Society organized two Rosary Crusades to which SSPX supporters worldwide responded with generous enthusiasm.

Two and a half million Rosaries were prayed in the first Rosary Crusade for the freeing of the Tridentine Mass. In the second, SSPX supporters offered one million, seven-hundred-three thousand Rosaries in less than two months. These are impressive numbers for those who are a minority in the Church.

The SSPX’s Father David Hewko, in his February 1 homily at Our Lady of the Rosary Chapel in South Buffalo, New York, told the congregation, “Look what Our Lady did through the Rosary in only two years!”

He urged his people to keep up the fight for Catholic Tradition, to arm themselves with the truths of the Faith and the writings of the pre-Conciliar popes, noting that we may be entering a more difficult and confusing battle.

He also urged his people to pray hard for Superior General Bishop Fellay, as he carries all 500 SSPX priests on his back, and the devil will pull out all the stops to try to make him stumble.

I am sure all of our readers will offer many prayers for Pope Benedict XVI who is taking his share of hits for his positive moves toward the Society. I am also confident our readers will offer numerous prayers, especially the Holy Rosary, for Bishop Bernard Fellay, and all bishops, priests and religious of the SSPX as they strive to maintain unswerving fidelity to the perennial magisterium and to the wise counsel of their founder, the late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

Rorate: SYNOD BATTLES: Blackmail, Veiled Schism Threats, the Kasperization of the German Church, and the Destruction of Marriage - Document and Analysis


Rorate has released the following translation of a document released by the German Bishops.

As this crisis of the Church proceeds, the lines are becoming clearer and clearer.

While the Theological lines were crossed at the Second Vatican Council, the Moral lines are being crossed at the 'Synods' and put into practice in the Government of the Church (see CFNEWS article)

Pray, for the Faith of many in the Church will be tried by this new scandal.



SYNOD BATTLES: Blackmail, Veiled Schism Threats, the Kasperization of the German Church, and the Destruction of Marriage - Document and Analysis


Zentralkomitee der deutschen Katholiken (Central Committee of the German Catholics)
Saturday, May 9, 2015
To Build Bridges between Teaching and the Reality of Life – Family and Church in the World of Today

Wednesday, May 13, 2015

Fr. Nicholson - an apt word


Louie Verrecchio used the word "histrionics" to describe Fr. Nicholson.

I think it suits quite well!


plural noun: histrionics
  1. 1.
    exaggerated dramatic behavior designed to attract attention.
    "discussions around the issue have been based as much in histrionics as in history"
    synonyms:dramaticstheatrics, tantrums; More
  2. 2.
    an actor.

Sunday, May 10, 2015

Fr. Paul Nicholson Perceptions of Reality


 I took a couple of minutes to read all of Fr. Nicholson's screed ( - The "Scotiabank Cathedral" ).

The last few of paragraph's, I believe, present his perspective of reality.
In attendance will be, no doubt, the rock stars of the Radical Traditionalist movement.  They will no doubt present themselves for Holy Communion in reverent fashion ... but, like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, their reception of Holy Communion will be a painful sight.  Almost all of them, to a man, have created such mistrust of the Holy Father and the sacred Magisterium in the electronic or print media, that it is hard to imagine how they can, in good conscience, present themselves for Holy Communion.  
So let's put something straight: The SSPX has never created a 'mistrust of the Holy Father and the sacred Magisterium in my 30+ years of seeking the sacraments from them. From my perspective, it is the knowledge of and adherence to the sacred Magisterium that is the root cause of the SSPX problems from 1974 until now.  The further that the members of the hierarchy deviate from the magisterium the more glaringly obvious it becomes just who is 'mistrusting the Holy Father (pre-conciliar ones per se) and the Magisterium.

Saturday, May 9, 2015

Fr. Gruner - RIP and don't forget to pray for the rabid anti-SSPX (ie Fr. Nicholson)


Today Fr. Gruner will be laid to rest after practically a lifetime of striving for the work of the Immaculate.

As with anyone else who has refused to compromise with the 'New Springtime' that erupted after the Second Vatican Council, he had his collection of critics and persecutors.

A simple look at the attempts to label Fr. Gruner as a vagus priest who is disobedient etc is sufficient. Look at both sides, they both can't be right. Either Fr. Gruner is incardinated or he is not.  I understand that he demonstrated that he was incardinated (in a similar situation as. Fr. Z), but his persecutors just keep repeating labels with the assurance that if you repeat a lie enough times people (and the liar) will believe it to be true.

Monday, May 4, 2015

Rorate-Caeli, Don Pio Pace and Archbishop Pozzo


Rorate recently posted another article by a "very wise, knowledgeable, and highly influential cleric, writing under the pen name of don Pio Pace" .

I take exception to the last statements of this article (seen below) as it appears to be fodder for the conspiracy minded:
Menzingen terrified?
As sson as knowledge of this intervention of the Cardinal of Buenos Aires was made known to the wider public, the General House of the SSPX immediately limited its reach. According to a communiqué published by its DICI agency, of April 13, 2015, essentially for internal purposes, Menzingen (the General House) affirms that, "Cardinal Poli’s document has no canonical authority," and that all of that, "is nothing more than a strictly administrative procedure in the restricted context of the Republic of Argentina.” That no one thinks, above all, that there could be a punctual and partial canonical recognition!
An additional evidence that, at this point in History, Bishop Bernard Fellay, the SSPX Superior-General, has in his hand all the cards for a complete canonical regularization, and that some around him (perhaps some of the faculty at the Écône seminary?) remain hostile to any regularization. Is the internal opposition preventing additional action? (source)
First the last paragraph is reminiscent of Archbishop Pozzo's latest words.  The response of the SSPX is here.   I would speculate that this prelate is potentially Archbishop Pozzo or someone who works closely with him.

Saturday, May 2, 2015

Catholic Dogmas, Doctrines and Principles - What are they good for?


They are good anchors for weathering the storm that is rocking the Barque of Peter and guides for decision making and action taking.

In my earlier article on principles, I provided a list of principles that I think are particularly important in these times - especially when confronted with all sorts of aberrant behaviour from people who should know and act better (the list is long).

Friday, May 1, 2015

Neo-Catholic Witch Hunters - The Remnant


I think a question that needs to be resolved is why the 'Neo-Catholics' gravitate towards attacking Traditionalists like the SSPX.  While the context if Neo-Geo's (no I am not 'one'), the tactics remain the same.

I think it is fear that motivates them, fear that the Trads may actually be right and by extension they are wrong.


Courtesy of the Remnant