Thursday, May 25, 2017

WSJ: Pope Francis Looks to Reconcile With Breakaway Catholic Group

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I saw this on Rorate's twitter feed and found this paragraph telling:
Archbishop Lefebvre opposed the end of the Latin Mass—a move he regarded as a damaging rupture with the church’s millennial traditions—and the Vatican’s more open stance to other religions. He argued that Catholicism is the only true faith and that Catholic officeholders are duty bound to make sure it is favored by the state. Source: WSJ

Well at least someone understands what this is about!!!


Then we have this bit:

SSPX members “flagrantly reject the Catholic Church’s rite of the Mass, its teachings on the primacy of conscience, and its respect for the truths expressed by other religions. Yet they are beckoned back into the fold,” wrote Jamie L. Manson, an editor of the progressive National Catholic Reporter, in April 2016. “But Catholics who…challenge the church’s teachings on women’s ordination and sexual ethics are still locked outside of the doors of mercy.”
So, let's see if we get this right, the SSPX who upholds Church Teaching against all comers.

Manson et al are the ones who are coming.

Just saying ...


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Friday, May 19, 2017

SSPX Marriages Addendum 2: Interview with Bishop Fellay - April 2017

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Bishop Fellay, the Superior General, has providing insight to the marriage issue.

It would appear that rumours of the death of the SSPX were greatly exaggerated.


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Courtesy of DICI.org


Sunday, May 14, 2017

Another In-Flight Interview - SSPX

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By now we're used to the Airborne Magisterium of Pope Francis, but a couple of items of interest were to be found in the latest interview.  What the Pope related I've already heard from various conferences of the SSPX.  So no new news, but news none the less as the Vicar of Christ decided to make mention of it.
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Nicolas Seneze (La Croix): Thanks, Holy Father. We’re returning from Fatima for which the Fraternity of St. Pius X has a great devotion and much is said about an agreement that would give an official statute to the Fraternity in the Church. Some even imagined that there would be an announcement today… Holiness, do you think that this agreement is possible in a short timeframe? And, what are the obstacles still? And what is the sense of this reconciliation for you? And, will it be the triumphant return for faithful who have shown what it means to be truly Catholic or what? 

Francis: I would toss out any form of triumphalism. None. Some days ago, the Feria Quarta of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, their meeting - the call it the Feria Quarta, because it’s the fourth Wednesday - studied a document and the document still hasn’t reached me, the study of the document. This is the first. Secondly, the current relations are fraternal. Last year, I gave a license for confession to all of them, also a form of jurisdiction for marriages, but even before the problems, the cases they had, for example, had to be resolved by the Doctrine of the Faith. The Doctrine of the Faith carries them forward. For example, abuses. The cases of abuse, they brought them to us, also to the Penitentiary. Also the reduction to the lay state of a priest, they bring to us. The relations are fraternal. With Msgr. Fellay I have a good rapport. I’ve spoken many times… I don’t like to hurry things. Walk. Walk. Walk. And then we’ll see. For me, it’s not an issue of winners and losers, it’s an issue of brothers who must walk together, looking for a formula to make steps forward. 
The reports that I've seen have only focused on the words of Pope Francis - but the question is critical to understanding the final aspects.

SSPX Marriages and Sundry - Addendum

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As a follow-up to my post on the issue in the Chardonnet etc., here's a conference given by Archbishop Lefebvre that touches on a number of the points.

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Courtesy of SSPXasia: St. Nicholas du Chardonnet Conference May 5, 1988



Saturday, May 13, 2017

SSPX Marriages and Sundry

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As the 'distance' between Rome and the SSPX lessens, peoples assumptions are going to be tested.

Why?  Because, in this conflict (read: Fog of War), the guiding principles have become obscured or lost.

 If decisions are made upon unvalidated assumptions, independent of principles, then mistakes will be made.

An example of a mistake is the letter written in La Chardonnet and signed by 7 priests. In this letter they took it upon themselves to put forth their opinions (it was also read from the pulpit), that could be interpreted as being at odds with that of their superiors.

So, here we hit disobedience again.

Here's the key points from the  final paragraph that gives us a hint of the underlying issues.
  1.  Personal Prelature ... was supposed to recognize us as we are, and to maintain our independence vis-à-vis the local Ordinaries.
  2. First decisions taken consist in unjustly submitting our marriages to these very Ordinaries
  3. Tomorrow the opening of any new Houses will have to meet their approval
Looking at the first and third point we have the 'independence' from the local ordinaries assumption. What we want it to mean and what it can mean are two different things.  I prefer to look at what it can mean.

The geographic delegation of authority is Apostolic.  This means you need to be very careful when dealing with it, otherwise we could become little modernists in altering the constitution of the Church.

Thursday, May 11, 2017

Foundation of the Crisis of the Church

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There is, believe it or not, a root to this crisis of the Church.

In order to find it, you have to dig past the documents of Vatican II ... as well as basically all the post-V2 fluff that tries to pass for doctrine and dig a little deeper.

Ultimately, we will arrive at ... wait for it ... pride.

You see, the problems of Vatican II etc didn't happen over night, it started with Luther and simply erupted at V2.

The liberals, modernists, et al simply thought (and think) that they have such a deep knowledge of Theology etc that they see where the Church made a mistake in dealing with the World.  They prefer to make up their own perspective instead of accept reality, instead of submitting to the Church.

How was this pride manifested?

Disobedience.

They disobeyed Pope Pius X by (amongst other things) disobeying the interdicts against teaching modernism, by reading modernist books that were on the index etc.

This continues today.

Archbishop Lefebvre said it - perhaps first - but looking at the Church today - truer words have not be said:
Two religions confront each other; we are in a dramatic situation and it is impossible to avoid a choice, but the choice is not between obedience and disobedience.  What is suggested to us, what we are expressly invited to do, what we are persecuted for not doing, is to choose an appearance of obedience. But even the Holy Father cannot ask us to abandon our faith.
We therefore choose to keep it and we cannot be mistaken in clinging to what the Church has taught for two thousand years.  The crisis is profound, cleverly organized and directed, and by this token one can truly believe that the master mind is not a man but Satan himself.  For it is a master-stroke of Satan to get Catholics to disobey the whole of Tradition in the name of obedience.  A typical example is furnished by the “aggiornamento” of the religious societies. By obedience, monks and nuns are made to disobey the laws and constitutions of their founders, which they swore to observe when they made their profession. Obedience in this case should have been a categorical  refusal. Even legitimate authority cannot command a reprehensible and evil act. Nobody can oblige anyone to change his monastic vows into simple promises, just as nobody can make us become Protestants or modernists. St. Thomas Aquinas, to whom we must always refer, goes so far in the Summa Theologica as to ask whether the “fraternal correction” prescribed by Our Lord can be exercised towards our superiors. After having made all the appropriate distinctions he replies: “One can exercise fraternal correction towards superiors when it is a matter of faith.” (OpenLetterToConfusedCatholics/Chapter-18)

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